Hearing God for Guidance, Prophecy and Ministry Prayer

00:00 this is how to hear God's voice session
00:02 number six and we're going to be talking
00:05 about hearing God's voice I hope you all
00:07 have the handout so you should be
00:09 following along with those as we go it's
00:12 on hearing God's voice for guidance for
00:15 prophecy and ministry prayer so we are
00:17 jamming a lot of information into one
00:20 short little session here so it is going
00:23 to be a bit of an overview I'm Norma
00:25 this is Michael in case you hadn't
00:26 figured that out yeah okay you might sit
00:29 down there okay for those of you that
00:33 have been here you should hopefully
00:34 remember what the four keys are do it
00:37 with me the first one is stillness
00:40 vision spontaneity and journaling one
00:44 more time still this vision spontaneity
00:48 and journaling okay so our key scripture
00:52 and this is in your notes here is from
00:54 John 10 verses 2 through 5 but he who
00:57 enters by the door is the Shepherd of
00:59 the sheep to him the doorkeeper opens
01:01 and the sheep hear his voice and he
01:04 calls his own sheep by name and leads
01:06 them out and when he brings out his own
01:08 sheep he goes before him for they know
01:11 his voice yet they will by no means
01:13 follow a stranger but will flee from him
01:16 for they do not know the voice of
01:18 strangers and so I don't know how it is
01:22 with with everybody here but do me a
01:24 favor just close your eyes okay and how
01:28 many of you feel like you've had a real
01:30 breakthrough in your ability to be able
01:33 to recognize God's voice if you've been
01:35 coming to the last sessions just raise
01:37 your hand okay all right now for any of
01:41 you that are perhaps struggling with
01:43 that and you're thinking that you're not
01:44 hearing and you're not receiving you
01:47 know mental pictures or visions or
01:49 anything like that it's because you're
01:51 believing a lie and the enemy of course
01:54 wants to keep you from being able to
01:57 hear from God clearly and so what I want
01:59 you all to do is just close your eyes
02:01 and for those of you that this applies
02:04 to I want to add you ask God what lie am
02:08 i believing what lie are you believing
02:12 that's keeping you from hearing God's
02:14 voice because if you're a born again
02:17 child of God you have his assurance that
02:19 you can and you will hear his voice okay
02:24 it's possible that he's telling that the
02:26 enemy has told you you're not spiritual
02:28 enough you're not worthy enough that
02:30 other people can hear him but you can't
02:32 because there's something deficient or
02:34 lacking in you it may be if you've been
02:39 told by the enemy that it's just not one
02:41 of your gifts okay those are all lies
02:43 and so whatever the lie or lies is are I
02:47 should say that you have been listening
02:50 to that have been blocking you from
02:52 hearing the voice of God we're going to
02:53 renounce them right now all right so
02:56 everybody I'm gonna just close your eyes
02:57 and we're gonna I want you to dis repeat
03:00 after me I renounce that why and I
03:05 declare that is one of God's beloved
03:09 children I can and do here is voice okay
03:16 and so that should open things up for
03:19 you unblock you and also just you need
03:23 to practice okay any skill that you want
03:26 to develop you need to practice so don't
03:29 just put this all on the Shelf when we
03:31 leave and the sixth seventh sixth
03:32 session is over I want you to take
03:35 everything that you that we've been able
03:36 to share with you and keep using it keep
03:39 using it okay
03:41 now we're going to start with Roman
03:43 numeral two in your notes hearing God's
03:44 voice for guidance and making important
03:46 decisions well God gave us free will so
03:50 we don't have to seek Him diligently for
03:55 every little decision okay you can make
03:58 your own decisions when it comes to what
04:00 movie to go to see and what ice-cream
04:02 flavor to choose you know all that kind
04:04 of stuff but you should always consult
04:06 God for major decisions so you don't go
04:09 off track and then have to come back and
04:11 circle the mountain again alright you
04:13 want to always want to consult him for
04:14 major decisions and you can expect we
04:17 can expect God to guide us he is a
04:20 loving father a loving
04:21 father does that helps his children to
04:24 know what what to do and what not to do
04:26 and many scriptures assure us of this
04:28 fact and there in your notes some 32:8 I
04:31 will instruct you and teach you in the
04:33 way you should go I will counsel you
04:35 with my eye upon you
04:37 Isaiah 30:21 your ears shall hear a word
04:40 behind you saying this is the way walk
04:42 in it whenever you turn to the right or
04:44 the left proverbs 3 verses 5 & 6
04:48 favorite of mine trust in the Lord with
04:50 all your heart and lean not on your own
04:52 understanding in all your ways
04:54 acknowledge him and he will direct your
04:56 paths Romans 8:14 for all who are being
05:00 led by the Spirit of God these are sons
05:02 of God so God wants to guide us but he
05:06 doesn't give us a detailed map I wish he
05:09 would but he doesn't do that he kind of
05:12 just shows us the next step in the
05:14 journey and may give you a kind of a
05:16 general sense of where you're heading
05:18 but in terms of guidance it tends to be
05:21 more of an my our experience anyway more
05:23 of a step-by-step thing and you might
05:25 ask yourself why does he do that and I
05:27 think it's I know it's because he wants
05:29 to be a very he wants to be a close
05:33 partner with you on the journey he wants
05:36 to he wants us to learn his ways and he
05:40 wants to refine us refine our character
05:42 so we will become more and more like
05:44 Jesus and that's what happens as you
05:47 walk out your life with God so he will
05:50 teach us his ways and there are six
05:53 pillars of guidance that we learned from
05:55 Mark burglers book and most of all of
05:59 our all of these should line up before
06:01 you make a major decision major
06:02 decisions like moving to a different
06:05 state or moving you know selling your
06:07 house and moving somewhere else
06:08 changing churches changing jobs all
06:11 those kinds of things getting married
06:13 those are all pretty major decisions so
06:15 all of these are most of them should
06:17 lighten up before you make a decision
06:18 okay and the first one the first pillar
06:21 is God's voice through illumination and
06:24 the revelation of Scripture it's a I'm
06:26 sure you've all had this experience
06:27 where a scripture just leaps out at you
06:30 kind of gets highlighted you know and it
06:33 may be that maybe
06:34 the way that God will speak to you and
06:36 that's always really good if you if you
06:38 get something from Scripture I'll give
06:40 you an example of when the Lord spoke
06:42 very very clearly to us from the word
06:44 for a decision in the early 80s we had
06:48 an uh wonderful opportunity to live in
06:50 Jerusalem for a year Mike was doing a
06:52 sabbatical year of research and and and
06:56 that went really well and they wanted
06:57 him to come back and but we couldn't
06:59 spend a whole year there again so but we
07:00 could spend about six to eight weeks and
07:02 so we needed to know exactly what was
07:05 the timeframe and we really weren't sure
07:07 about it and Mike was just reading in
07:08 the in the word that one morning and
07:10 what popped out to him was the time
07:12 between Passover and and Pentecost and
07:15 that's exactly when we ended up going
07:17 and it was perfect it was absolutely
07:20 perfect more details than I have time to
07:22 give you but all kinds of great things
07:23 happened during that that little time
07:25 period so that was an example of
07:27 illumination and revelation of Scripture
07:29 second pillar is God's voice through
07:31 illumination of your thoughts where you
07:34 just know what you're supposed to do you
07:38 know that you're supposed to go to a
07:39 particular place or maybe pray for a
07:41 particular person or call somebody on
07:43 the phone that day and that's just an
07:46 aluminium god I'll give you an example
07:48 of again when we were the first time
07:50 that we were moving to Israel we did not
07:52 know a soul really in Jerusalem we've
07:55 never been there we didn't know the
07:56 layout of the city and we just we got a
07:58 map and we just laid it out and we both
08:00 of us just kind of zeroed in on this one
08:02 area we just kind of felt drawn to it
08:05 and that's where we ended up living we
08:08 got up we had a wonderful apartment we
08:10 rented and for many reasons that was
08:12 like the perfect location for us God
08:16 just showed us he just sort of
08:17 illuminated on that map so that would be
08:19 example of pillar number two pillar
08:22 number three is having discernment in
08:24 your heart either peace or unrest and we
08:27 like to call it knowing in your knower
08:30 okay very technical term I'll give you a
08:33 bad example of that that we did and in
08:37 terms of guidance many years ago we were
08:39 really young in the Lord and a friend of
08:42 Barr's asked us if we would cosign on a
08:45 loan for her I think it was for a car or
08:47 a truck and we thought well we prayed
08:50 about it and we had peace in our heart
08:51 and we thought oh this just seems right
08:53 and so we cosign and guess what happened
08:57 she defaulted on the loan and we had to
08:59 pay it off and then we found out later
09:01 on that in the scriptures there are many
09:05 warnings that you should never cosign
09:07 but we didn't know that yet and so that
09:09 was an example of a false peace okay you
09:12 always want to go to the scripture and
09:14 see if what your what your you think
09:17 your decision is is going to line up
09:18 with the word of God
09:20 and then what we what we call knowing in
09:22 your lone knower that's like that this
09:24 would be a good example when our
09:26 youngest our younger son was he had
09:30 finished high school and we had to
09:31 decide what college he was going to go
09:33 to and he wanted to go to a Christian
09:35 school and so we had narrowed it down to
09:37 a few and he'd been accepted I think it
09:39 was at Azusa Pacific and he practically
09:42 had signed and signed on the dotted line
09:43 to go there and we thought well there
09:46 was one other school that he had been
09:47 interested in it was vana Costa Mesa
09:49 Vanguard College which is an Assemblies
09:52 of God school and we thought well there
09:55 was a Preview Day maybe we'll go there
09:56 he'd been there once and wasn't all that
09:58 impressed but we thought well let's go
09:59 check it out again and so we went and we
10:02 had we went they did a chapel service
10:04 first and like the Lord just just did
10:06 something to all of us we all just knew
10:08 we knew it our nowhere you know that was
10:11 where he was supposed to go and you know
10:13 and so our son's mind was totally
10:15 changed and we all just came into
10:17 agreement because we just kind of found
10:19 that we just knew it and so we had that
10:21 we had that confirmation was all three
10:23 of us had that same sense of just
10:27 knowing from the Lord that that was his
10:29 God's choice and it was and then a
10:32 pillar number four is the discerning
10:33 Council of others and in proverbs 11:14
10:37 it says in the multitude of counselors
10:38 there is safety so you want to always
10:42 get input and confirmation before you
10:44 make a major decision and it should be
10:48 from people who are mature in the Lord
10:49 and can hear his voice and I'll give you
10:52 two example
10:52 there another one a good within a bad
10:54 one a good example a friend of ours who
10:57 actually had lived with us for a while
10:58 and he felt like the Lord was calling
11:00 him to move to Montana or was it Wyoming
11:03 I can't remember some cold place and we
11:06 all prayed about it and we really did
11:08 not want to say goodbye to him he was a
11:10 real sweetheart and we were very good
11:12 friends but we the more you know as we
11:14 prayed and as the church leadership
11:15 prayed we all felt like Bob's supposed
11:17 to move to Montana so and he did and it
11:20 worked out okay because we were all in
11:23 agreement and then there was another
11:24 couple in the in the church that we were
11:26 part of at the time and they just got it
11:28 in their head that they wanted to live
11:29 in Oregon and so they did everything
11:32 they could to make it happen and they
11:34 brought it before the church leadership
11:36 and you know we none of us had peace
11:38 about it we all felt like this was not
11:40 the right thing to do and we did share
11:43 that with them and they went ahead they
11:44 plowed ahead they went a lot of
11:46 obstacles they finally got there and
11:48 they ended up getting a divorce it was a
11:50 complete disaster because they wouldn't
11:53 listen to counsel so council is really
11:54 important pillar number five is life
11:57 circumstances are there open or closed
12:00 doors or other indications you know
12:03 sometimes you can try to bash the door
12:05 in and that and if it doesn't open
12:07 easily it's probably not from God you
12:10 know that look at the circumstances of
12:12 your life or things movie you in that
12:14 that direction or is there provision for
12:16 you in that direction there's lots of
12:18 different things to think about I'll
12:21 give you an example and then there's the
12:23 Bible talks about laying a fleece that's
12:25 what Gideon did because he really needed
12:27 to know that God was really calling him
12:29 to do this very difficult thing and and
12:32 so I'm not going to tell you what it is
12:34 you probably all know the scripture
12:35 anyway but for the sake of time when
12:37 when we were trying to decide whether or
12:39 not to move from the East Valley out to
12:42 thousand oaks because some friends of
12:45 ours had planted a church and Thousand
12:47 Oaks we were very good friends with them
12:48 and we we were really feeling drawn out
12:50 there but we wanted to know that we knew
12:52 that we knew you know and so one day we
12:54 weren't getting we didn't think a very
12:56 clear signal about it and so Mike one
12:59 morning he just says to the Lord and his
13:01 quiet time he says Lord just just give
13:02 us a sign
13:03 give us a sign and that day we get a
13:06 phone call a totally cold call from a
13:08 real estate agent who says I've got a
13:10 buyer for your house are you are you
13:12 interested in selling I thought it was a
13:15 pretty good sign and so then he comes
13:16 over and it turns out that he is dating
13:20 a gal who's a born-again Christian and
13:23 she's Jewish just like us and so she's
13:26 been sharing with him and then we start
13:28 sharing with him that we're born-again
13:29 believers too and weird tuition it like
13:32 totally blows his mind and he ends up
13:33 being the guy that sells our house and
13:35 so in - you know just as a confirmation
13:38 we sold our house and bought our house
13:41 and Thousand Oaks within 48 hours so
13:44 that's a pretty good place you know that
13:46 was that was a pretty clear sign so that
13:48 would be killer number five life
13:50 circumstances and what they are saying
13:51 back to you and the last one pillar
13:53 number six is hearing God's voice
13:55 through dreams visions prophecy and
13:57 journaling and too much detail to go
14:00 into and with a lot of specificity but
14:03 when Mike was a professor at UCLA had a
14:06 really nice cushy job and as a professor
14:10 of Neurobiology and felt like God was
14:12 leading him out of that and to become go
14:16 into full-time ministry and we needed a
14:19 lot of confirmation before we made that
14:21 decision so there was all kinds of stuff
14:23 there was dreams and there were
14:25 scriptures and there were all kinds of
14:26 stuff that went into making that final
14:28 decision and another example just from
14:33 our own life was when our younger son
14:35 the one that ended up going to Vanguard
14:37 when he finished he didn't know what to
14:40 do he didn't have any direction and he
14:42 we he knows how to do
14:43 two-way journaling and he knows to use
14:46 the four keys and so he came home after
14:49 after graduating and every time he
14:51 journal the Lord would say I'll tell you
14:53 when it's time I'll tell you when it's
14:55 time and so he did that summer I don't
14:59 want to get into all the details but he
15:00 very very clearly through all kinds of
15:03 wild and crazy confirmations and using
15:06 practically all of these six pillars and
15:09 he ended up being led to go to a school
15:12 of ministry up in north
15:14 California and he's still there and so
15:17 okay so those are the six pillars and
15:19 they should line up another analogy that
15:23 might help you remember them is that in
15:26 in navigation apparently when you're
15:28 bringing your your your ship into port
15:30 there are lights on buoys and if they
15:34 line up if they all line up you've got a
15:36 straight shot to go in to dock but if
15:39 they're not then then you should better
15:42 be careful so you want all the lights to
15:44 line up ok so here's some things do not
15:47 do and we have seen people do all of
15:49 these things what I would have called
15:51 immature guidance what not to do when
15:53 you're seeking the Lord's will for it
15:55 making a decision ok first one I've
15:57 already mentioned failing to get
15:59 adequate confirmation I'll give you an
16:01 example of that the year that we lived
16:03 in in Israel there all kinds of
16:05 interesting and strange people end up
16:08 congregating in Jerusalem and there was
16:11 one guy that we met and he is his
16:14 decision was based on he said God if I
16:17 sell my stereo that's the sign but at a
16:22 garage sale if I sell my stereo at a
16:24 garage sale that is going to be my sign
16:26 that I moved to Jerusalem and so guess
16:28 what he sold the stereo and he moved to
16:30 Jerusalem and he didn't have a penny in
16:31 his pocket and so he ended up mooching
16:34 off of all the believers in the truce
16:37 alone until we finally figured out that
16:39 he wasn't supposed to be there ok
16:40 another thing you should not do is play
16:42 Bible roulette which is where you just
16:45 open your Bible at random and hope that
16:46 you get the answer that you that you're
16:48 looking for I would not recommend that
16:51 following the advice of other Christians
16:53 from without hearing from God yourself
16:56 you really should not take make a major
16:59 decision based on somebody else's input
17:01 only and I was just talking to a friend
17:04 the other day about a gal who ended up
17:06 marrying this is like her third marriage
17:08 I think her third wedding and she
17:11 married a guy not because she felt like
17:13 she was supposed to but because from
17:15 good good friends of hers encouraged her
17:18 to do this so guess how well that's
17:20 turning out not not good at all ok and
17:25 the last thing is ignoring godly counsel
17:27 and just follow
17:28 your feelings don't do that people your
17:31 feelings are too volatile they're too
17:33 changeable and so you don't want to make
17:35 any major decision just based on your
17:37 feelings
17:39 okay Michaels gonna talk about prophecy
17:44 Thanks yeah we're going to give you a
17:46 whirlwind tour of prophecy
17:48 I've taught whole courses on prophecy so
17:50 you're gonna get it in ten minutes
17:52 so buckle up first thing is we all can
17:57 learn to give prophecy not all of us may
18:00 be prophets you know in the office of
18:03 Prophet that all of us can prophesy it
18:06 scripture is very clear in acts 2:17
18:08 your sons and your daughters shall
18:10 prophesy 1st Corinthians 14 31 for you
18:14 can all prophesy one by one that all may
18:18 learn and all may be encouraged so it's
18:20 something for everyone now we've talked
18:22 a little bit about this earlier prophecy
18:24 will just bubble up it'll be something
18:27 that comes spontaneously so you tune
18:29 into the spontaneous flow of the Holy
18:32 Spirit and you get thoughts you get
18:35 pictures in your mind and then you share
18:38 but you don't want to force it this is
18:41 the thing this is what if you try to
18:42 make it a prophecy trying to boil up
18:44 that prophecy you want it just to bubble
18:47 up and I'll tell you a story this is
18:49 from Mark the burglar and he's the
18:52 journaling guy we've been using as a
18:53 base for this but he was in a big
18:57 conference he was one of the speakers
18:59 teaching on journaling and hearing with
19:02 God through your journaling and bill
19:04 Hammond who's a very famous prophetic
19:06 guy was the guy was running the
19:08 conference and he grabbed mark 4 and
19:10 pulled him up to the front and said
19:11 we're gonna prophesy and Mark Berkley
19:13 says no no I don't prophesy I just do
19:15 journaling he says no no you're gonna
19:17 prophesy and Mark Berkeley to that time
19:19 had never given a public prophecy so guy
19:22 comes up and there's bill Hammond and
19:24 mark fuller and a couple other people
19:25 and they're going around and they're all
19:27 giving these really beautiful prophecies
19:29 for this person who came up and now it's
19:32 mark burglars time and he says what do i
19:35 do God and then he remembered do the
19:37 same thing that we've been teaching you
19:39 you quiet your mind
19:41 stillness you focus your eyes on Jesus
19:44 and attuned to spontaneity so he did
19:48 that and he got a picture of a tree it
19:51 was a beautiful tree completely filled
19:53 out leafed out and everything was a
19:55 gorgeous tree and yes Lord to give him
19:57 more information than Lord didn't give
19:59 him anything and so he finally shared
20:02 well I saw a tree and he felt like he
20:05 was a complete failure and then he went
20:07 back to his seat but later on in the
20:09 meeting the guy came up to him and told
20:11 him that that was the most meaningful of
20:14 the prophecies that had been given to
20:15 him because the last time he was
20:17 prophesied over he was told that he was
20:20 like a dead tree with no leaves and this
20:24 was so encouraging to him so Oliver
20:27 Clure did was turn to God tune to
20:31 spontaneity quieten himself down and
20:33 share what he got that's it and that's
20:36 how you do it you just let it kind of
20:38 bubble up so you want to wait for the
20:40 Holy Spirit to give you something to
20:42 share if you don't get something don't
20:44 share it could be a word it could be a
20:46 thought it could be a picture a vision a
20:50 generally from me and I think for many
20:53 people that I've talked to I often get
20:55 the start I'll get a word I'll get a
20:58 thought I'll get a scripture and as I
21:00 step out to share that with someone the
21:03 Lord has told me to share he then fills
21:05 it in and it continues and so it begins
21:08 to unfold
21:09 so I usually get the what idea to start
21:11 and then I continue on in faith now what
21:16 you want to do if you want to learn how
21:17 to prophesy is you do what happened to
21:19 my further you put yourself in a demand
21:22 situation
21:23 oh I've got to share and then you trust
21:27 that God will give you something to
21:28 share in belief then you share what you
21:31 get when you hear spontaneously and you
21:35 believe that the Lord is sharing now
21:37 when you share that and this is
21:40 important you don't say
21:41 the Lord said or God is saying to you
21:45 but rather you couch it in terms like I
21:47 think the Lord might be saying this and
21:50 you share or I believe this scriptures
21:53 for is for you
21:54 so you share it in a way so that you're
21:56 not coming across as if this is the word
21:58 of the Lord because the person will know
22:01 if you're sharing something that's from
22:04 God they will know immediately it's from
22:06 God you don't have to tell them that's
22:08 from God so there's this way it's easier
22:11 for you to share and not feel so worried
22:13 about it being from the Lord now
22:17 sometimes you may have a physical
22:19 sensation that is kind of highlighting
22:21 to you like you made tingle or you may
22:23 tremble you may get feeling hot and this
22:28 is maybe a sign to you you kind of learn
22:30 this it may be a sign to you that what
22:32 you're thinking maybe something God
22:34 wants you to share so you pay attention
22:37 to those thoughts and sometimes you get
22:39 a scripture that pops into your mind and
22:41 I'll tell you a story that happened not
22:44 too long ago I enjoy when the Lord gives
22:47 me the unction to interpret tattoos and
22:50 prophesy over them and we were eating at
22:54 one of these fast takeout places and the
22:56 woman is taking our order she had these
22:58 names tattooed on her men's names so I
23:02 asked her what what what are those what
23:04 does that mean she says oh well they're
23:07 names of old boyfriends and I'm thinking
23:10 can't believe she would tattoo that but
23:13 I Lord said to me he gave me Isaiah 43
23:17 verse 1 which is I have redeemed you I
23:21 have called you by name and you are mine
23:23 and so I just shared that scripture to
23:27 her and then ministered how much God
23:29 will not leave her
23:31 my kurivolt boyfriends that he is there
23:33 always and she just really received it
23:36 so that was a scripture that came to me
23:39 that I just shared because there's such
23:41 power in sharing the Word of God
23:47 now words of knowledge this is another
23:50 time flies words of knowledge is another
23:54 one of the word gifts and this is
23:56 revelation knowledge you get that you
23:58 couldn't possibly know except
24:00 supernaturally and it's just a gift from
24:05 God you can't make this up and I've done
24:07 I've gotten lots of these whenever I do
24:09 teachings especially teaching on healing
24:12 I'd like to get words of knowledge and
24:14 let the Lord minister through that and
24:16 one time I was teaching at a church in
24:18 Simi Valley and I got this word of
24:20 knowledge I was teaching on healing got
24:22 this word of knowledge about someone who
24:23 had vision problems so I asked anybody
24:25 to stand up they had vision problems
24:27 young man stands up so I asked the
24:30 person next to him to pray for his eyes
24:32 and this person prayed and then the the
24:36 young man who stood up at us and he's
24:37 bouncing around and pointing around the
24:39 room and he's really excited I figured
24:41 how this a good one this worked and I
24:44 found out later that he had been healed
24:46 of color blindness and it's the first
24:49 time in his life he was able to see
24:51 color and he told me an interesting
24:53 story the next day about how that
24:56 morning he was at home and he was
24:58 sorting his socks according to color and
25:00 his mother came and asked him what are
25:02 you doing and he said well I'm sorting
25:04 him according to color he'd never been
25:06 able to do that so God touched him and
25:10 you know sometimes a word and knowledge
25:13 will come to you in strange ways I was
25:16 at a meeting I wasn't teaching I was
25:18 just in the back but I was actually
25:20 running the meeting and as I was walking
25:22 down the aisle to go to the front I saw
25:25 a woman that I knew and as I walked by
25:28 her the Lord told me to tell her
25:29 everything is going to be alright and
25:32 she just kind of shook a little bit and
25:35 then I went on I didn't think much about
25:37 that and that was something I got and I
25:40 just didn't face Santa sure did I had no
25:42 idea what that meant what I found out
25:45 later that evening is I saw her go up
25:49 for prayer and she had seemed to be
25:50 getting a really good prayer time and I
25:53 talked to her the next day
25:54 it turned out that that morning she had
25:57 been to the doctor because she was
25:59 pregnant
25:59 and hadn't felt the baby move for days
26:02 and she was terrified and the doctor
26:06 told her that the baby probably died and
26:09 come in tomorrow morning and we'll do
26:12 the tests and we'll take care of it so
26:14 she got prayer that night then went in
26:17 the next morning and everything was fine
26:20 and the word that I gave her which was a
26:23 simple thing everything is going to be
26:25 all right
26:26 gave her hope and faith to make it
26:30 through that night so words of knowledge
26:33 can be incredibly powerful now I'm gonna
26:37 read I want to read just a couple things
26:39 from a magazine article by a woman named
26:41 Kim Maus some of you may know her she's
26:44 a prophetess from Simi Valley
26:46 she Moorpark Moorpark and she ministers
26:51 with Randy Clark and she's very very
26:53 gifted and she wrote this article in the
26:55 most recent charisma magazine and in the
26:58 article this is a quote your prophetic
27:01 gift will not grow unless you use it
27:04 there are four practices believers can
27:06 use to initiate and grow in the
27:08 prophetic gift that God has freely given
27:10 them they are you have to read the Bible
27:13 do you want to get the Bible into you
27:15 one of the best ways to test a word
27:17 knowledge always is by scripture they
27:20 need words need to line up with the
27:21 scriptures the second one every chance
27:24 you get practice giving prophecy and
27:28 there's there's so many ways you can
27:30 practice but one you can do and as it
27:32 goes along what we've been teaching is
27:34 you can simply journal in the mornings
27:36 and ask the Lord what's going to happen
27:40 today
27:40 or who's gonna call me today or is there
27:43 someone you want me to minister to today
27:45 and he just pay attention to what he
27:47 says and then that opportunity will come
27:49 up during the day he'll speak to you
27:52 another thing is she suggests and we've
27:55 done this is give prophetic gifts and
27:58 cards to people in your life simply ask
28:00 the Lord to give you something to
28:04 encourage someone to share with them in
28:06 a card or if you're in a store and you
28:08 see a little gift you use in you get
28:11 this impression that's perfect for so
28:12 so and it fits in perfectly with what's
28:16 going on in their life that's prophecy
28:18 so you want to do that oh the other
28:21 thing and this is something you just
28:23 have to do is when you're out during the
28:26 day just ask the Lord to help you hear
28:30 what he's doing and see what he's doing
28:32 everywhere you go so wherever you're
28:35 going during the day ask the Lord to
28:36 make you sensitive to the voice of the
28:40 Holy Spirit and to be then that way you
28:43 can be aware of what's going on around
28:45 you and then he might give you an
28:48 impression you need to talk to this
28:49 person and you might have a word for
28:52 this person a word of encouragement it
28:55 might be a teller at me it could be
28:56 anything but the idea is to take a
29:00 positive approach to it by looking for
29:03 it looking for opportunity and Norma's
29:06 going to finish up with one more topic
29:08 okay we're on Roman numeral four hearing
29:11 from God when you pray for others let me
29:13 just throw in a little thought here to
29:15 when Michael's talking about number
29:16 three they're from Kim's suggestions get
29:19 prophetic gifts and cards I don't know
29:21 if you do this here at Jubilee but in
29:22 our church in in Moorpark we every year
29:27 we have a woman's Christmas party and we
29:29 buy an ornament and when we ask the Lord
29:32 to give us a prophetic word to go along
29:36 with it and we wrap it up and then we
29:38 you know people just choose them at
29:39 random and it's the coolest thing
29:41 because the Holy Spirit sorts them out
29:43 and you end up getting an ornament with
29:45 a prophetic word that is just right for
29:47 you I don't know how God does that but
29:49 he does so it's a fun have you ever done
29:50 that here yeah you did that uh-huh cool
29:54 we did it with like 35 women and so it
29:57 was pretty wild it was fun alright we're
29:59 going to talk very briefly about hearing
30:00 from God when you pray for others and
30:02 really this is more I was saying more
30:04 appropriate for people that are on the
30:06 prayer team here on the ministry team
30:08 the way we learned to pray for healing
30:10 was that John Wimber is what he called
30:12 the five-step model and and then Randy
30:15 Clark teaches this too because he was
30:17 that he was discipled by John Wimber
30:19 back in the days of the vineyard
30:21 movement and God was really moving and
30:23 all kinds of people were getting healed
30:24 and we learned
30:25 we could actually pray for healing and
30:27 see it happen it's a pretty exciting
30:29 time and so the five steps are you start
30:31 with an interview you ask the person
30:33 questions but you don't want to let them
30:35 ramble on and tell you their whole life
30:37 story and a lot of times if you let them
30:39 talk too much it'll really drag you down
30:41 and so you don't want to do that you
30:43 want to just like get the basics and
30:45 then move on and get going with the
30:47 prayer time then the next step is what
30:50 they call the diagnosis where you ask
30:52 the Holy Spirit for insight on how to
30:54 pray and this is where you ask the
30:56 Father what are you doing Lord what is
30:59 it that you want me what are you
31:00 highlighting with this this person this
31:03 person's needs and then you figure out
31:05 well how am I gonna pray that does it
31:07 seem like they need physical healing
31:09 emotional healing maybe deliverance they
31:11 need encouragement you know and what
31:13 kind and then what kind of prayer do you
31:15 think is appropriate is a petition is a
31:18 declaration you know we're just gonna
31:20 pray for healing it just really depends
31:22 but the Holy Spirit will lead you and
31:24 that's why it being able to hear from
31:25 God and get those spontaneous thoughts
31:28 and revelations is so important in a
31:30 ministry time and then you just start
31:33 praying you follow the Holy Spirit's
31:34 direction and we always like to pray as
31:37 a team we I think it's just it's just a
31:39 great safeguard Mike and I love to pray
31:41 together because we prayed together a
31:43 lot and so we're comfortable with each
31:45 other's style and so you know he'll
31:48 he'll start out and I'll add and we kind
31:50 of go back and forth and back and forth
31:51 and and it seems to work out well
31:53 teamwork is really important
31:55 Jesus send out his disciples in Paris
31:57 didn't he so if he knew what he was
31:59 doing I guess we should do likewise and
32:02 then after you're finished with praying
32:05 you you want to get feedback from the
32:08 person it's always nice to know if you
32:10 were on target you know did that
32:12 minister to you did that speak to you
32:14 too did you bear witness to that was
32:16 that confirming you know give them
32:18 encouragement and then because we pray
32:20 in the Conejo Valley Healing Rooms and
32:23 sometimes we'll give them homework you
32:24 know we'll give them something to do to
32:26 follow up so they don't just lose what
32:28 it was that the Holy Spirit gave to them
32:30 that that night and and and then we like
32:33 to actually debrief to afterwards if
32:35 Mike and I praying for somebody when
32:37 after we're finished with them we'll
32:39 just kind of you know run it by each
32:40 other how do you think that went
32:42 you know what did you think of that word
32:43 that I gave and did that seem like it
32:45 was right on you know right on target or
32:47 whatever because that's how you learn
32:48 you know you have to be able to get that
32:50 feedback and and just humbly receive it
32:53 you know if somebody totally off-base
32:55 and I'll get to that in a second all
32:57 right before it's really important they
32:59 think that before you dive in and start
33:01 praying that you wait and you don't feel
33:04 pressured and that you because you want
33:06 to be able to just dial down and instill
33:09 yourself and then you'll be able to
33:11 receive from the Holy Spirit more easily
33:13 and then you tune to spontaneity what
33:15 are you seeing what are you sensing are
33:17 you getting spontaneous thoughts or
33:19 pictures coming to your mind and getting
33:20 a word of knowledge and getting a
33:22 scripture any of those things can happen
33:24 and we always try to pray with our eyes
33:26 open that's how we were trained to do
33:29 because that way you see what the Holy
33:30 Spirit's doing you might see the eyelids
33:33 fluttering you might see them being
33:35 flushed you might see the person tearing
33:39 up and weeping all kinds of things can
33:41 happen they can be trembling you know
33:43 it's good to see that but what the Holy
33:45 Spirit is doing and as Mike mentioned
33:47 you want to be kind of I don't want to
33:50 say hedge your bets but be kind of
33:52 gentle when you share what you think the
33:56 Lord is saying you say I believe I have
33:58 a word for you I'm seeing a picture of
34:01 whatever it may be does that have
34:03 meaning for you and get that feedback
34:05 it's it's important and the Holy Spirit
34:08 may when you're praying for somebody may
34:09 lead you to do a prophetic act one time
34:13 I think might mention this in one of our
34:14 previous sessions he saw a dagger in the
34:17 person's shoulder and they were having
34:18 shoulder pain and so in the spirit he
34:20 just pulled it out and another example
34:23 let's see oh yeah we were praying for
34:25 somebody at one time and he just sensed
34:27 that there was like a heavy weight on
34:29 their shoulders and so he just went and
34:31 in the spirit pulled it off and they
34:34 felt a whole lot better
34:37 and I think they probably even had their
34:38 eyes closed I can't remember because we
34:40 were praying for them and I think that
34:43 the important thing to remember is that
34:45 even if you didn't you weren't like a
34:47 hundred percent accurate the Holy Spirit
34:50 has an amazing way of filtering out the
34:53 stuff that really wasn't that important
34:55 and he will highlight and save for that
34:58 person that which is most important and
35:01 remember that love never fails if the
35:04 person that you were praying for felt
35:06 loved and accepted and valued then you
35:10 did a good job all right
35:12 that's important love never fails and I
35:15 think that the thing that I want to
35:16 leave you with is the knowledge and the
35:19 memory that you can hear God's voice
35:22 that is his promise to you he will
35:25 communicate with us in a multitude of
35:27 different ways if we just become
35:30 sensitive and we practice just put
35:33 yourself in those situations where you
35:35 need to hear from God
35:36 keep up the journaling do all the things
35:38 that we have been sharing in I guarantee
35:41 you or as Mark Berkley would say I
35:43 guarantee you that you will be able to
35:46 not only hear God's voice but you'll
35:49 hear it better and better and more
35:50 clearly and more clearly